
Learn what it REALLY takes to build a THRIVING mortgage business, doing what you LOVE, without relying on cold calling or annoying Realtors. Hosted by Doren Aldana, founder of MortgageMarketingCoach.com and several highly-acclaimed training programs, including the Client Acceleration Formula and the 7-Figure Lender Academy.
Episodes

Thursday Feb 06, 2025
The 10 Tenets of Top Producers (Part 1)
Thursday Feb 06, 2025
Thursday Feb 06, 2025
2025 is shaping up to be a pivotal year—uncertain markets, relatively high rates, rising challenges, and heightened competition are leaving many feeling stuck. But here's the reality: success isn’t determined by external forces—it’s determined by YOU.
If you're still relying on outdated strategies, hoping for a break, 2025 might be the year you get left behind. On the flip side, with the right mindset and approach, it could be the year you break through to the next level like never before. Many professionals are spinning their wheels, relying on hope instead of adopting the habits that create real momentum. But the top 1%? They play the game differently—thinking bigger, acting smarter, and executing with precision.
So, where do you stand? Have you set small, "safe" goals that limit your potential? Are your actions sporadic, leaving you stuck in the same place year after year? The top performers don’t operate like that—they define their vision for success, strategize, and most importantly, act.
Do you have a clear picture of what "winning" looks like in 2025? What if, instead of chasing opportunities, you positioned yourself as a trusted leader in your industry, attracting collaborators and brand ambassadors who view you as indispensable?
In this episode, we’ll break down the key principles that make top producers different - principles that most everyone else neglects. We’ll reveal the actions that create unstoppable momentum and build a business that thrives, regardless of the challenges around you.
You’ll learn:
- Serving over selfishness and why the most successful LOs are the biggest givers
- How to chart your course to victory in the midst of the thickest market fog
- Why success, growth and prosperity often lie on the other side of the “cul-de-sac of suck”
- How top-producers define success and happiness (hint: it’s not money)
About Your Hosts
Considered by many to be the nation’s leading Mortgage Marketing Coach, Doren Aldana is the founder of several highly acclaimed training programs, including Autopilot Referral Systems, Client Acceleration Formula and the 7-Figure Lender Academy. He is a contributing author for Mortgage Professional America, CMP Magazine,The Mortgage Journal, and other mortgage industry publications. He is also the founder of the #1 mortgage marketing group on Facebook, The Art of Mortgage Marketing. Since 2005, Doren has trained thousands of mortgage professionals how to utilize his mortgage marketing secrets to close more deals with less effort, regardless of market conditions. In fact, due to his high-impact mortgage marketing solutions (and a whack-load of success stories), Doren was awarded the prestigious “Best Industry Service Provider” award three years in a row at the Canadian Mortgage Awards. Won the BEST INDUSTRY SERVICE award three times in a row.
Penny Wrightly is a seasoned mortgage professional and expert in creative lead generation. With years of experience in the industry, she has built a reputation for thinking outside the box to find opportunities where others don’t. Penny specializes in helping mortgage pros expand their networks, create valuable partnerships, and boost their business even in challenging markets. Her hands-on approach and innovative strategies have made her a sought-after speaker and coach for those looking to thrive in the competitive world of real estate and finance.
Check out this episode on Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

Thursday Jan 23, 2025
5 Steps to Thrive in 2025
Thursday Jan 23, 2025
Thursday Jan 23, 2025
Rising rates, shrinking pipelines, and fierce competition are crushing dreams left and right. But here’s the kicker—your results aren’t determined by the market; they’re determined by YOU and your marketing.
If you’re not dialed into the right strategies and habits, 2025 could be the same or worse than last year—or if you make some potent strategic pivots, it could be the year you unleash your full potential and thrive like never before. Here’s the hard truth: most LOs are stuck in a cycle of mediocrity, relying on hope instead of habits.
Are you setting low goals to play it “safe” while sporadic efforts leave you stuck in the same old rut? The Top 1% don’t play small—they think bigger, act smarter, and focus on the right things.
Have you clearly defined what “winning” looks like in 2025? What if you could ditch the grind of chasing crappy leads and instead attract the right Realtor partners who see you as their Irreplaceable Hero?
In this episode, we share a valuable step-by-step guide to crushing it in 2025. Let’s unpack the 5 key steps you need to align your mindset, habits, and strategies with success so you can turn your daily actions into compounding momentum, stop spinning your wheels, and build a THRIVING business – even in unthriving times.
You’ll also learn:
- The game-changing mindset shift every mortgage pro must embrace to thrive consistently, regardless of rates or inventory.
- Why defining your “win” isn’t just important—it’s mandatory if you want to enjoy sustainable success.
- The life-altering difference between trying and training—and how it separates the winners from the mere wishers.
- How to turbocharge your growth by cultivating GROWTH HABITS.
- The secret to “changing the who before the do” so you can break free from the cycle of self-sabotage and start winning consistently.
- The single most profitable daily habit that can skyrocket you to a $30K+ monthly income—even in today’s tough market.
About Your Hosts
Considered by many to be the nation’s leading Mortgage Marketing Coach, Doren Aldana is the founder of several highly acclaimed training programs, including Autopilot Referral Systems, Client Acceleration Formula and the 7-Figure Lender Academy. He is a contributing author for Mortgage Professional America, CMP Magazine,The Mortgage Journal, and other mortgage industry publications. He is also the founder of the #1 mortgage marketing group on Facebook, The Art of Mortgage Marketing. Since 2005, Doren has trained thousands of mortgage professionals how to utilize his mortgage marketing secrets to close more deals with less effort, regardless of market conditions. In fact, due to his high-impact mortgage marketing solutions (and a whack-load of success stories), Doren was awarded the prestigious “Best Industry Service Provider” award three years in a row at the Canadian Mortgage Awards. Won the BEST INDUSTRY SERVICE award three times in a row.
Penny Wrightly is a seasoned mortgage professional and expert in creative lead generation. With years of experience in the industry, she has built a reputation for thinking outside the box to find opportunities where others don’t. Penny specializes in helping mortgage pros expand their networks, create valuable partnerships, and boost their business even in challenging markets. Her hands-on approach and innovative strategies have made her a sought-after speaker and coach for those looking to thrive in the competitive world of real estate and finance.
Check out this episode on Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

Thursday Jan 09, 2025
Facebook Ad Essentials: Why Most Mortgage FB Ads Fail and How to Fix It
Thursday Jan 09, 2025
Thursday Jan 09, 2025
With constant algorithm changes and skyrocketing ad costs, it’s harder than ever to make Facebook ads work for your mortgage business. That’s why over 90% of mortgage pros fail to see any meaningful return from their Facebook ad campaigns. Yet, many LOs continue to throw money at these campaigns, hoping for a breakthrough. The result? Wasted time, drained budgets, and frustration that leads many to give up entirely.
But what if the problem isn’t Facebook—it’s your approach? Most mortgage pros treat Facebook ads like a magic button, expecting instant results with little effort. That mindset guarantees failure. Instead of just chasing leads, your focus should be building systems that convert leads into closed deals and cash flow.
How do you create ads that attract quality leads instead of time-wasters? Why are video-based ads outperforming text-heavy campaigns? What’s the secret sauce top producers are using to make Facebook ads work in this tough market?
In today’s episode, we pull back the curtain on what’s working—and not —in Facebook advertising for mortgage pros. We’re sharing the top 3 landmines that derail most campaigns, reveal cutting-edge tools to increase conversions, and share follow-up strategies that transform clicks into closings.
You’ll also learn;
- The top 3 landmines that cause Facebook ads to flop—and how to sidestep them.
- Why targeting is harder than ever (and what to do about it).
- How to use video and storytelling to skyrocket ad engagement.
- The truth about lead quality and conversion rates from Facebook ads.
- Why most LOs waste money on ads and how to focus on profitability instead.
- A revolutionary tool that’s transforming ad campaigns.
About Your Hosts
Considered by many to be the nation’s leading Mortgage Marketing Coach, Doren Aldana is the founder of several highly acclaimed training programs, including Autopilot Referral Systems, Client Acceleration Formula and the 7-Figure Lender Academy. He is a contributing author for Mortgage Professional America, CMP Magazine,The Mortgage Journal, and other mortgage industry publications. He is also the founder of the #1 mortgage marketing group on Facebook, The Art of Mortgage Marketing. Since 2005, Doren has trained thousands of mortgage professionals how to utilize his mortgage marketing secrets to close more deals with less effort, regardless of market conditions. In fact, due to his high-impact mortgage marketing solutions (and a whack-load of success stories), Doren was awarded the prestigious “Best Industry Service Provider” award three years in a row at the Canadian Mortgage Awards. Won the BEST INDUSTRY SERVICE award three times in a row.
Penny Wrightly is a seasoned mortgage professional and expert in creative lead generation. With years of experience in the industry, she has built a reputation for thinking outside the box to find opportunities where others don’t. Penny specializes in helping mortgage pros expand their networks, create valuable partnerships, and boost their business even in challenging markets. Her hands-on approach and innovative strategies have made her a sought-after speaker and coach for those looking to thrive in the competitive world of real estate and finance.
Check out this episode on Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

Thursday Dec 19, 2024
Real Talk About What Actually Works
Thursday Dec 19, 2024
Thursday Dec 19, 2024
With tens of thousands of mortgage pros leaving the business over the past 3 years, it comes as no surprise most mortgage pros use outdated tactics that yield little to no results in today's market. Between rising rates, low inventory, dwindling leads, and fierce competition, many LOs find themselves trapped in a cycle of frustration, grinding harder for less return.
The truth is, success in the mortgage industry has evolved, and clinging to outdated methods will only leave you stuck and struggling. If you’re grinding away with cold calls, endless social media posts, or chasing crappy internet leads, chances are these tactics aren’t just ineffective—they’re actively holding you back.
It’s time to ask yourself: Is what you’re doing aligned with what truly works in today’s market? What if one simple daily habit could create exponential results, make you the go-to partner Realtors can’t resist, and finally stop the endless struggle bus?
In this episode, we break down the real talk about what’s working in the mortgage industry right now—no fluff, no gimmicks, just proven strategies that get results so you can take control of your business and scale your income.
You’ll also learn:
- Why outdated tactics like cold calling and generic networking events are a waste of time in today’s market.
- The "Hour of Power"—a simple, game-changing daily habit top producers swear by to dominate their market.
- How to flip the script and get Realtors chasing YOU instead of the other way around.
- The make-or-break role of CRMs in turning your pipeline into a profit machine.
- Why social media isn’t the “magic bullet” you’ve been sold—and the smarter, faster way to get results.
- How consistent daily actions compound over time to create exponential growth and unstoppable momentum.
About Your Hosts
Considered by many to be the nation’s leading Mortgage Marketing Coach, Doren Aldana is the founder of several highly acclaimed training programs, including Autopilot Referral Systems, Client Acceleration Formula and the 7-Figure Lender Academy. He is a contributing author for Mortgage Professional America, CMP Magazine,The Mortgage Journal, and other mortgage industry publications. He is also the founder of the #1 mortgage marketing group on Facebook, The Art of Mortgage Marketing. Since 2005, Doren has trained thousands of mortgage professionals how to utilize his mortgage marketing secrets to close more deals with less effort, regardless of market conditions. In fact, due to his high-impact mortgage marketing solutions (and a whack-load of success stories), Doren was awarded the prestigious “Best Industry Service Provider” award three years in a row at the Canadian Mortgage Awards. Won the BEST INDUSTRY SERVICE award three times in a row.
Penny Wrightly is a seasoned mortgage professional and expert in creative lead generation. With years of experience in the industry, she has built a reputation for thinking outside the box to find opportunities where others don’t. Penny specializes in helping mortgage pros expand their networks, create valuable partnerships, and boost their business even in challenging markets. Her hands-on approach and innovative strategies have made her a sought-after speaker and coach for those looking to thrive in the competitive world of real estate and finance.
Check out this episode on Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

Thursday Dec 05, 2024
Secrets of a Billion-Dollar Mortgage Team w/Anthony Contento and Michele Steko
Thursday Dec 05, 2024
Thursday Dec 05, 2024
Businesses with strong team cultures crush the competition, outperforming by a jaw-dropping 200%. Yet in the relentless, high-pressure world of mortgages—where sales targets reign supreme—many leaders miss the mark on building the trust and collaboration that fuel sustainable success. Without a clear vision or a united team, scaling feels like trying to sprint through quicksand.
What if the secret to a billion-dollar business wasn’t grinding harder or chasing the next shiny object, but creating a culture so magnetic that top talent lines up to join your team, your clients can’t stop raving, and growth becomes almost effortless?
Most mortgage pros think hustle and rapid growth are the keys to the kingdom. But here’s the hard truth: chasing short-term wins might actually be blocking your path to long-term greatness. What if the real game-changer is doing less—but doing it better—anchored in culture, purpose, and servant leadership with a patient, long term approach?
In this episode, we sit down with Anthony Contento and Michele Steko of Sherwood Mortgage Group, who have cracked the code on building a billion-dollar team. They reveal how they fostered a family-like culture that inspires loyalty, strategically scaled by putting people before profits, and navigated tough markets with grace, grit, and innovation.
You’ll also learn:
- The power of building a “family culture” that attracts and retains top talent—because people don’t join companies, they join people.
- How to thrive in any market, even when the wind is in your face, by focusing on what you can control and staying intentional with your actions.
- Why servant leadership wins the long game, and how putting people first creates magnetic, lasting success.
- The timeless secret to building billion-dollar relationships: connecting with 2-3 COIs (centers of influence) a day and compounding those connections into massive results.
- How to master your mindset and self-image to overcome fear, imposter syndrome, and self-doubt—because you can’t outperform the belief you have in yourself.
- Why alignment matters more than chasing shiny objects, and how to find your lane for authentic, unstoppable growth.
- How to manage challenges with gratitude and grace, and turning adversity into your greatest asset.
Guest Bio
Anthony Contento is the co-founder and CEO of Sherwood Mortgage Group, a leading mortgage brokerage in Canada. With a career spanning over two decades in the financial industry, Anthony has been instrumental in the company’s rapid growth since its inception in 2008. Under his leadership, Sherwood Mortgage Group has expanded to over 100 agents across five provinces and has consistently surpassed the billion-dollar mark in mortgage originations. Anthony’s expertise in both banking and mortgage brokering allows him to offer a wide range of solutions to clients, ensuring personalized and effective financial strategies.
Michele Steko is the Vice President of National Broker Relations at Sherwood Mortgage Group. Michele joined the executive team with a wealth of experience in the mortgage industry, bringing a strong focus on fostering relationships and enhancing broker support. Her role involves ensuring smooth communication and collaboration among brokers spread across different provinces, contributing to the company’s cohesive and supportive culture. Michele’s dedication to professional excellence and her ability to navigate the complexities of the mortgage market make her a valuable asset to Sherwood Mortgage Group. To learn more visit https://sherwoodmortgagegroup.com/.
About Your Hosts
Considered by many to be the nation’s leading Mortgage Marketing Coach, Doren Aldana is the founder of several highly acclaimed training programs, including Autopilot Referral Systems, Client Acceleration Formula and the 7-Figure Lender Academy. He is a contributing author for Mortgage Professional America, CMP Magazine, The Mortgage Journal, and other mortgage industry publications. He is also the founder of the #1 mortgage marketing group on Facebook, The Art of Mortgage Marketing. Since 2005, Doren has trained thousands of mortgage professionals how to utilize his mortgage marketing secrets to close more deals with less effort, regardless of market conditions. In fact, due to his high-impact mortgage marketing solutions (and a whack-load of success stories), Doren was awarded the prestigious “Best Industry Service Provider” award three years in a row at the Canadian Mortgage Awards. Won the BEST INDUSTRY SERVICE award three times in a row.
Penny Wrightly is a seasoned mortgage professional and expert in creative lead generation. With years of experience in the industry, she has built a reputation for thinking outside the box to find opportunities where others don’t. Penny specializes in helping mortgage pros expand their networks, create valuable partnerships, and boost their business even in challenging markets. Her hands-on approach and innovative strategies have made her a sought-after speaker and coach for those looking to thrive in the competitive world of real estate and finance.
Check out this episode on Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

Thursday Nov 14, 2024
3 Frighteningly Easy Ways To Bring In Borrowers Faster Than You Can Say Boo
Thursday Nov 14, 2024
Thursday Nov 14, 2024
Our special Halloween podcast episode was streamed live on Halloween, but it was just too scary-awesome not to share with you….
Most mortgage pros feel trapped in a haunted house of inconsistent income, where leads vanish like ghosts and referrals are as scarce as full moons. It’s a frightening reality for many mortgage pros, plagued by unresponsive clients, dead leads gathering cobwebs, and pipelines running bone-dry.
These spooky symptoms are enough to give anyone the chills—but here’s the twist: with just a few eerie-sistible strategies, you can scare away scarcity, resurrect those “lost” leads, and cast a spell of consistent growth in your business.
Are you clinging to the belief that borrower scarcity and ghosting clients are just the nature of the game, when this haunting, growth-killing mindset might be the very curse holding your pipeline in the graveyard?
What if a few “ghoulishly good” strategies could put an end to sleepless nights, transform “ghost” clients into loyal fans, and break the spell that keeps mortgage pros trapped in the income dungeon?
In this Halloween special episode, we’re conjuring up 3 frighteningly easy strategies to breathe life back into your borrower pipeline and keep the clients rolling in. Spook your competition and watch your pipeline fill up, leaving you cackling all the way to the bank!
You’ll also learn:
- How to stop borrowers from ghosting you with a powerful little-known strategy
- How to resurrect dead leads and turn them into raving fans
- Simple ways to automate your follow-up and keep the haunt out of high-value leads
- Strategies for putting your pipeline on hyper-growth that won’t die by Halloween next year
- Why waiting for business is scarier than cold calling (and how to flip that fear on its head once and for all)
About Your Hosts
Considered by many to be the nation’s leading Mortgage Marketing Coach, Doren Aldana is the founder of several highly acclaimed training programs, including Autopilot Referral Systems, Client Acceleration Formula and the 7-Figure Lender Academy. He is a contributing author for Mortgage Professional America, CMP Magazine,The Mortgage Journal, and other mortgage industry publications. He is also the founder of the #1 mortgage marketing group on Facebook, The Art of Mortgage Marketing. Since 2005, Doren has trained thousands of mortgage professionals how to utilize his mortgage marketing secrets to close more deals with less effort, regardless of market conditions. In fact, due to his high-impact mortgage marketing solutions (and a whack-load of success stories), Doren was awarded the prestigious “Best Industry Service Provider” award three years in a row at the Canadian Mortgage Awards. Won the BEST INDUSTRY SERVICE award three times in a row.
Penny Wrightly is a seasoned mortgage professional and expert in creative lead generation. With years of experience in the industry, she has built a reputation for thinking outside the box to find opportunities where others don’t. Penny specializes in helping mortgage pros expand their networks, create valuable partnerships, and boost their business even in challenging markets. Her hands-on approach and innovative strategies have made her a sought-after speaker and coach for those looking to thrive in the competitive world of real estate and finance.
Check out this episode on Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

Thursday Oct 31, 2024
MINING FOR GOLD: 3 Proven Campaigns Guaranteed to Fill Your Pipeline!
Thursday Oct 31, 2024
Thursday Oct 31, 2024
In today's competitive market where inventory is low and rates are high, leads alone aren't enough. Success lies in how effectively you mine those opportunities.
If you’re not tapping into proven strategies to squeeze maximum value out of your database of prospects, clients and Realtors, you’re handing deals to your competitors on a silver platter—because they’ll be happy to take your market share.
Most mortgage pros think the answer is getting more leads, but here’s the harsh reality: it's not about quantity of your leads, but more importantly, the quality of your leads, and how you nurture and convert those leads into closings.
Are you spending too much time chasing new leads while overlooking the goldmine in your current database? Do you know how to turn the maximum number of those leads into cash? What if you could attract Top REALTORS as exclusive referral partners and automatically turn happy clients into 5-star reviews that turn into red-hot referrals—how much more business could you close?
In this episode, we break down 3 killer marketing campaigns that are guaranteed to generate more REALTOR partnerships, resurrect "dead" leads, and turn 5-star reviews into an unstoppable referral engine.
You’ll also learn:
- How to get top-producing REALTORS chasing you and consistently sending you high-quality deals like clockwork
- Why those so-called "dead" leads in your database are actually a hidden goldmine waiting to be cashed in for thousands
- The no-nonsense way to turn glowing reviews into a referral-generating machine that fuels your business with prosperity
- How the REALTOR Attraction Campaign (RAC) can get top-producing Realtors hot for what you got before you even call them (no cold calling)
- Why it’s not just WHAT you say, but HOW you say it that can transform your business overnight
- Why focusing on how you communicate is the key to ramping up your referrals
- How to leverage automation to make your pipeline-building efforts EFFORTLESS
About Your Hosts
Considered by many to be the nation’s leading Mortgage Marketing Coach, Doren Aldana is the founder of several highly acclaimed training programs, including Autopilot Referral Systems, Client Acceleration Formula and the 7-Figure Lender Academy. He is a contributing author for Mortgage Professional America, CMP Magazine,The Mortgage Journal, and other mortgage industry publications. He is also the founder of the #1 mortgage marketing group on Facebook, The Art of Mortgage Marketing. Since 2005, Doren has trained thousands of mortgage professionals how to utilize his mortgage marketing secrets to close more deals with less effort, regardless of market conditions. In fact, due to his high-impact mortgage marketing solutions (and a whack-load of success stories), Doren was awarded the prestigious “Best Industry Service Provider” award three years in a row at the Canadian Mortgage Awards. Won the BEST INDUSTRY SERVICE award three times in a row.
Penny Wrightly is the Chief Conversion Coach at MortgageMarketingCoach.com with a 24-year track record of success as a seasoned mortgage professional and expert in creative lead generation. As a highly-decorated veteran in the industry, Penny has built a reputation for thinking outside the box to find opportunities where others don’t. Penny specializes in helping mortgage pros expand their networks, create valuable partnerships, and boost their business even in challenging markets. Her hands-on approach and innovative strategies have made her a sought-after speaker and coach for those looking to thrive in the competitive world of real estate and finance.

Thursday Oct 24, 2024
Winning the Referral Game
Thursday Oct 24, 2024
Thursday Oct 24, 2024
Referrals are the lifeblood of any successful mortgage business. The majority of consumers trust referrals from people they know, yet most mortgage pros are stuck relying on inconsistent word-of-mouth and feel frustrated by the unpredictable flow of leads.
Many mortgage pros think that just doing great work will be enough to keep the referrals flowing, but hope is not a strategy. In fact, this passive approach is likely costing you business and keeping you stuck in the same frustrating cycle of feast or famine.
So ask yourself: Are you getting as many quality referrals as you could be, or are you letting valuable opportunities slip away? What if you could turn your best clients and partners into a steady flow of pre-sold business without the grind of cold calling or chasing crappy internet leads?
In this episode, we reveal the secrets to winning the referral game and building a reliable, high-quality lead stream that practically runs itself. We discuss the smart way to attract top-tier referral partners, create a system that saves you time and stress, and turn one-time clients into long-term, loyal advocates for your business. Stop hoping for referrals and start creating them on autopilot!
You’ll also learn:
- How to turn unpredictable word-of-mouth referrals into a consistent lead stream
- The two ways to get referrals: the hard way (grinding away with manual effort) or the smart way (with systems that do the heavy lifting)
- What the best referral partners really want (and it’s NOT more leads!) and how to deliver value that makes you their #1 choice
- The power of systems to save time, energy, money, and stress
- How to build high-octane referral partnerships that boost your bottom line
- Simple but powerful tactics to ask for and land high-quality referrals that flood your pipeline with pre-sold clients!
About Your Hosts
Considered by many to be the nation’s leading Mortgage Marketing Coach, Doren Aldana is the founder of several highly acclaimed training programs, including Autopilot Referral Systems, Client Acceleration Formula and the 7-Figure Lender Academy. He is a contributing author for Mortgage Professional America, CMP Magazine,The Mortgage Journal, and other mortgage industry publications. He is also the founder of the #1 mortgage marketing group on Facebook, The Art of Mortgage Marketing. Since 2005, Doren has trained thousands of mortgage professionals how to utilize his mortgage marketing secrets to close more deals with less effort, regardless of market conditions. In fact, due to his high-impact mortgage marketing solutions (and a whack-load of success stories), Doren was awarded the prestigious “Best Industry Service Provider” award three years in a row at the Canadian Mortgage Awards. Won the BEST INDUSTRY SERVICE award three times in a row.
Penny Wrightly is a seasoned mortgage professional and expert in creative lead generation. With 24+ years of experience in the industry, she has built a reputation for thinking outside the box to find opportunities where others don’t. Penny specializes in helping mortgage pros expand their networks, create valuable partnerships, and boost their business even in challenging markets. Her hands-on approach and innovative strategies have made her a sought-after speaker and coach for those looking to thrive in the competitive world of real estate and finance.
Check out this episode on Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

Thursday Oct 03, 2024
Thursday Oct 03, 2024
Over the past 2.5 years, the majority of mortgage pros have seen a sharp decline in their pipelines in comparison to the “mortgage gold rush” of 2020-2021. Relying on the same old prospecting methods that worked a few years ago have probably hit the point of diminishing returns.
The reality is, if you're fishing in the same pond as everyone else, you're likely walking away empty-handed. To stay afloat and thrive, you need to get creative and start looking for opportunities where others aren’t.
Sticking with the status quo in this market could cost you more than just a few deals—it could cost you your livelihood as it has for tens of thousands mortgage pros over the past year. The top producers are thinking differently and taking innovative approaches to secure leads that others are missing out on. They are using this so-called “down market” as an opportunity to up their marketing innovation, so they can take market share.
What if you could discover a wellspring of quality leads in places no one else is looking? Just think about how your business would transform as you build powerful partnerships (in unique and creative ways) that consistently bring in business, while your competition clings to the conventional dinosaur methods that lead to extinction.
In this episode, my co-host Penny Wrightly and I talk about powerful, creative prospecting strategies that work even in today’s tough market. If your pipeline is drying up, it's a clear wake-up call—time to step up, take massive action, and start getting creative to proactively generate quality leads now!
It’s important to maintain your grit and have a strong frame of mind in this business. Things that are working, you need to continue doing, and if something's not working, you need to cut those things, but remain consistent with the fundamentals. -Penny Wrightly
You’ll also learn:
- Why right NOW is the perfect time to step up and innovate your prospecting strategies (while everyone else is sleeping at the wheel)
- How to diversify your lead sources like a top producer, so you can protect your pipeline from drying up and build a rock-solid, recession-proof business
- Proven techniques that will have you standing head and shoulders above your competitors
- The secret to building a “VIP Rolodex” of power partners that keeps quality leads flowing in the door like clockwork
- How to use strategic collaboration to create exponential growth
- Actionable strategies to turn today’s low-transaction, low-inventory market into your biggest opportunity for success
Guest Bio
Penny Wrightly is a seasoned mortgage professional and expert in creative lead generation. With 24 years of experience in the mortgage industry and an alumni of Doren Aldana’s coaching program, she has built a reputation for thinking outside the box to find opportunities where others don’t. Penny specializes in helping mortgage pros expand their networks, create valuable partnerships, and boost their business even in challenging markets. Her hands-on approach and innovative strategies have made her a sought-after speaker and coach for those looking to thrive in the competitive world of mortgage marketing.
About Your Host
Considered by many to be the nation’s leading Mortgage Marketing Coach, Doren Aldana is the founder of several highly acclaimed training programs, including Autopilot Referral Systems, Client Acceleration Formula and the 7-Figure Lender Academy. He is a contributing author for Mortgage Professional America, CMP Magazine, The Mortgage Journal, and other mortgage industry publications. He is also the founder of the #1 mortgage marketing group on Facebook, The Art of Mortgage Marketing. Since 2005, Doren has trained thousands of mortgage professionals how to utilize his mortgage marketing secrets to close more deals with less effort, regardless of market conditions. In fact, due to his high-impact mortgage marketing solutions (and a whack-load of success stories), Doren was awarded the prestigious “Best Industry Service Provider” award three years in a row at the Canadian Mortgage Awards. Won the BEST INDUSTRY SERVICE award three times in a row.
Check out this episode on Apple Podcasts, or Spotify, and don't forget to leave a review if you like what you heard. Your review feeds the algorithm so our show reaches more people. Thank you!

Thursday Aug 29, 2024
3 Secrets for Closing More Deals from Less Leads w/ Penny Wrightly
Thursday Aug 29, 2024
Thursday Aug 29, 2024
In today’s ultra-competitive market with low inventory and relatively high rates, leads are harder to come by, and yet, many are unwittingly wasting the few they do get by making costly mistakes.
The key to thriving unthriving times isn’t necessarily just about getting more leads, but in converting more of the ones you already have into high-quality, high-paying clients who send referrals, give rave reviews and then come back to do repeat business,
Focusing solely on generating more leads might mean you're missing the bigger picture. The real issue often isn’t the quantity of leads but the quality of your lead source and the quality of your follow-up.
Many MLOs are letting potential deals slip through their fingers by not fully capitalizing on the opportunities they already have.
Are you truly squeezing all the juice out of the opportunities you’ve been given, or are you letting potential deals slip through your fingers? How would your life change if you could close more deals with less stress?
In this episode, I talk to Lead Conversion Expert, Penny Wrightly, where we reveal the 3 secrets for closing more deals from fewer leads. Stop doing it the hard way and start doing it the SMART WAY.
"Whether your leads come from your client database or referral partnerships you’re building, those will be your highest-quality leads and the easiest to convert." -Penny Wrightly
You’ll also learn:
- How to assess and improve the quality of your leads to skyrocket your conversions.
- The most effective follow-up strategies that turn lukewarm leads into hot, motivated prospects.
- Why asking for referrals is a non-negotiable step in your sales process.
- The crucial role systems play in your follow-up game and how to implement them the right way.
- A simple, yet effective strategy for attracting more high-quality leads from your existing clients.
- Tips for nurturing relationships with referral partners to keep your lead pipeline full - regardless of market conditions.
Guest Bio
Penny Wrightly is a mortgage industry veteran with over 24 years of experience, now serving as the Chief Conversion Coach at Planet Prosper. From starting as an administrator to becoming a principal broker, Penny has scaled the heights of the mortgage world, leading teams to exponential growth. She’s passionate about helping mortgage pros turn hard-earned leads into consistent closings, and her deep expertise in lead conversion is second to none.
About Your Host
Considered by many to be the nation’s leading Mortgage Marketing Coach, Doren Aldana is the founder of several highly acclaimed training programs, including Autopilot Referral Systems, Client Acceleration Formula and the 7-Figure Lender Academy. He is a contributing author for Mortgage Professional America, CMP Magazine,The Mortgage Journal, and other mortgage industry publications. He is also the founder of the #1 mortgage marketing group on Facebook, The Art of Mortgage Marketing. Since 2005, Doren has trained thousands of mortgage professionals how to utilize his mortgage marketing secrets to close more deals with less effort, regardless of market conditions. In fact, due to his high-impact mortgage marketing solutions (and a whack-load of success stories), Doren was awarded the prestigious “Best Industry Service Provider” award three years in a row at the Canadian Mortgage Awards. Won the BEST INDUSTRY SERVICE award three times in a row.